This is a rock podcast, so it’s about time we finally get around to talking about perhaps the greatest rock band of all-time, The Beatles.

Our excuse is a great new book called Dreaming The Beatles by venerated rock critic (friend of the pod!) Rob Sheffield. The prospect of writing another Beatles book is pretty daunting, given that the Beatles might be the most written about band ever.

But Rob — a staff writer at Rolling Stone whose other books include Love Is A Mix Tape and Talking To Girls About Duran Duran — is able to find fresh angles on the Fab Four, starting with the idea that the Beatles have transcended the ’60s and become a band that’s truly stands outside of time.

Steve and Rob have plenty of Beatles opinions to share — this pod could’ve gone on for four hours but we assure you that we were merciful and capped it at one.